you had mentioned that the people who did the technology on the website made a number of mistakes. you mentioned verizon. when we had them before the committee they said it wasn't their fault, they were told within hhs there were problems there. >> verizon wasn't involved in the website. >> i understand. but they had a role, cgi had a role, other companies, et cetera. i'm just curious in this process what decisions did you make that affected this for better or worse in terms of the data, the ease or problems at the moment and being able to track how many people are actually enrolled? >> my decisions specifically to design the website, i was not involved. i am prohibited to choose contractors. we go by the federal procurement and i got regular reports on exactly what was done. >> what about the part with regard to getting data in terms of how many people are even enrolled or trying to enroll. >> again, the application process at this point does not work end to end very well and we do not have reliable data about the end -- >> i'm just trying to find out if you had asked them to say,